[jujumantb]

I'm the wrong person to go into hip-hop with... I'm almost positive I listen to more stuff than you do, obviously alot more than you think I do. Its hard to know underground US hip-hop when you arent even from here wouldnt ya think oOo: ...not everything makes its way to kazaa. I've been to more shows at first ave and seventh street entry (big midwest underground stops) than I'd like to admit. Beats have genres of their own... and for what kanye produces, hes good at it IMO. With your logic, tribes beats, often made up of strictly sampled hits and a bassline, should be ridiculed aswell...