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you are all missing the point of my argument. People who don't support abortion are usually people who beleive the fetus is a person. Therefore, they beleive aborting that person is murder. Saying that, you can't say, "it's not your fetus, why do you care?" because that would be equivalent to saying, "you're not the one committing murder, why do you care?" If people genuinely think you are terminating an innocent life, they have a moral obligation to object to it, even if it's someone else doing it. Just as we have a moral obligation to try to stop people from killing there husbands, wives, etc... Why can't you understand that? I don't care if you think that fetuses aren't people, but you have to understand the argument of the people who do in order to understand their position and debate it, which half of you can't seem to do.

Trip, you don't have to think a fetus is a person, but that doesn't mean it isn't because you say it isn't. There are loads of people who think they are, your opinion on the issue is not an end all solution. And if you want to provide an example like the "30,000 civilian deaths that their support of their government's foreign policy caused, in a war based on false pretenses." I would pick one that isn't arguable.

Stammer, I have no clue what you are talking about in the assisted suicide part of your post with the "turn the other cheek" reference, do you even know what that quote means? Please elaborate if you do, because it makes no sense as it is. And Stammer, you are being too general in the classification of what the right wing is "telling" people to do. All those issues are much more complex than you made them, and by no means do right wingers have a consensus on all of them.