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[quote="Short Hand":57b1f]The Engine was to much for outdoor enviroments at the time. BUT that has changed.[/quote:57b1f]

Exactly, people said the same about the quake 3 engine " it can't do outdoor maps". A load of the games using that engine have large outdoor maps, mohaa and rtcw being 2 of the more prominent ones. Doom 3 took that to another level though with light sources projecting real time shadows. Quake wars seems to do it well though judging from pics and that trailer.