[Coleman]

but short hand does have a point: Mac stuff is just unrightfully expensive for what you get. I would have no problem paying for a mac if it was around the same price tag as a comparable spec PC machine.

[rudedog]

Correct, it is and is one of the reasons I had my x6800 box running hackentosh before pulling the trigger on the 24" imac (which I got via openbox for under $1750) direct from apple.